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Nope. Never seen that mag on Australian shelves.

Dave.

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   That's too bad.  It started out being printed on recycled newspaper,
and evolve to an actual magazine.  Lots of projects, and it used to have
advertisements from lots of surplus dealers in the US and Canada.


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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:43:36 +1000, Michael A. Terrell  

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    Seen it occasionally on library shelves, lots of overseas magazines
can go to over $15-20 mark here on newsstands. I like Nuts and Volts format
and the wide variety of projects featured.

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   I think that I still have some of the early issues.  Some of the
projects are available on their website, and you can subscribe to an
electronic version.


http://www.nutsvolts.com /

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    Finally found a current copy of SC once I went to one of the larger
newsagents in town, I guess the other hole in the wall newsagents stock
high sales items such as FHM and Picture magazine.

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For me the pivotal moment was when they published their new amp design
mounted in a particularly cheap & shitty beige mini-tower computer case,
complete with big knobs to make it look supremely naff.




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Which was plainly a stupid attempt at recycling. However the circuit design
was OK, and I built one into a standard rack case long before they realised
their error and redesigned it with a normal case. I'll bet I wasn't the only
one either.

MrT.



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: What the  HELL is the need to  CONTINUOUSLY  show the damn
silly logo  ????
:
:
:
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: ......  Phil
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It's to denote copyright material and stop people unlawfully
using it!

And you recon you're the legal eagle!?

TT



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How well do you think it works ?

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: >
: > : What the  HELL is the need to  CONTINUOUSLY  show the
damn
: > silly logo  ????
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > : ......  Phil
: > :
: > It's to denote copyright material and stop people
unlawfully
: > using it!
: >
: > And you recon you're the legal eagle!?
: >
: > TT
: >
: >
: How well do you think it works ?

About as well as DRM, Macrovision and the scary FBI warnings
etc ;-)

Realistically though it would stop (deter) someone from
recording material, burning to DVD and then onselling the
discs to shops, market stalls, online etc.  It is only proof
of copyright ownership - that's all.

For private use there is absolutely no deterrent what so
ever.

Cheers TT



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And yet the commercial channels just put their logo over the top when they
use any other channels materials without permission. You often see the old
logo remains still showing.
So if it doesn't stop the commercial channels, what use is it ???????????

MrT.



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:
: > : What the  HELL is the need to  CONTINUOUSLY  show the
damn
: > silly logo  ????
:
: > It's to denote copyright material and stop people
unlawfully
: > using it!
:
: And yet the commercial channels just put their logo over
the top when they
: use any other channels materials without permission. You
often see the old
: logo remains still showing.
: So if it doesn't stop the commercial channels, what use is
it ???????????
:
: MrT.
:
I don't think I ever claimed it was effective or even
prevented plagiarism ;-)   Probably about as effective as
antismoking labels on cigarettes.

Cheers TT



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Far less so IMO, and at least the cigarette packet warnings don't affect the
cigarettes themselves, whereas watermarks always affect the actual program.

I think the prime aim is simply to irritate viewers as much as possible, and
the channels are engaged in a battle to see who can do it best.

MrT.



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For irritation it is hard to match the recent format for such shows as
Border Security. About 2 minutes of good stuff, then lots of adverts, then a
recap of at least one minute of the previous two minutes. Arrgh!



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:
: >
: >> I don't think I ever claimed it was effective or even
: >> prevented plagiarism ;-)   Probably about as effective
as
: >> antismoking labels on cigarettes.
: >
: > Far less so IMO, and at least the cigarette packet
warnings don't affect
: > the
: > cigarettes themselves, whereas watermarks always affect
the actual
: > program.
: >
: > I think the prime aim is simply to irritate viewers as
much as possible,
: > and
: > the channels are engaged in a battle to see who can do
it best.
: >
: > MrT.
: >
: For irritation it is hard to match the recent format for
such shows as
: Border Security. About 2 minutes of good stuff, then lots
of adverts, then a
: recap of at least one minute of the previous two minutes.
Arrgh!
:
Worse still is when some of the old Foxtel logos used to
give screen burn!  IIRC Fox 8 was the main culprit :-(

Cheers TT



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I've also noticed those TV programs catering for people with a goldfish
attention span appearing on the ABC as well.



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     I entirely agree. Now that it's been discussed here, I'm noticing
it more than I did before.


Bob


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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:35:55 +1100, Bob Parker

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Actually it is the SBS logo used during their news that caused burn-in
on our plasma. The right hand portion (max white) is naturally the
worst, with the other couple to the left of it still having left
burns.

Not surprisingly asking them to tone the logo down like they do with
some of their other programs hasn't had a result. Though I suppose no
response is a result .......

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