Pretzl wrote
Thats not true with the best low light cameras.
But few have their own IR light built in.
Pretzl wrote
Thats not true with the best low light cameras.
But few have their own IR light built in.
I think that CCD sensors like my tape sony Video camera need little light a 10 watt fluro (energy saver) provides a very good clear colour face/body image at 2 metres outside. My camera has inbuilt night vision again not effective above 2 metres and in a sort of black and white image only. CMOS sensors do offer even lower light levels resulting in clearer pictures than CCD do and are the main sensor type used in latest DVD quality video cameras (IMO most certainly superior image qualiy and cheaper than Swan in all respects). My main problem with my CCD video cam is the street light gives me the front number plate number the rear if lit is whited out as the video cam has (automatic) adjusted for low light capture
-- 'petzl
Sigh. It is all electromagnetic radiation. just that some cams respond better in that area.
Which would be useless in daylight then?
Pretzl wrote
The best security cameras do a hell of a lot better than that.
The best security cameras do a hell of a lot better than that.
That last is just plain wrong, you have it backwards.
respects).
Yes, but the swans arent the best security cameras around.
The best security cameras do a hell of a lot better than that.
terryc wrote
Nope, not with automatic aperture cameras.
Only with supplementary lighting.
The results I've seen from "security camera" images are complete rubbish compared what one can get from a video cam?
-- Petzl
You can buy Automatic Apertures to fit cameras,
-- Petzl
The set-up I use via a old Sony Video cam is for outside and just have the camera looking out a window. It works well day and night the street light provides enough light at night time. Takes better images than I have ever seen in the local paper. The software I use is supervisionCam which seems ok, it detects movement so its easy to go over what images it has captured and creats "avi's" out of what images I wish to keeI'm, looking at using a senconday digital camera 14 megabite to cut in/activate when video becomes "over" active (I can do this by using/activating the cameras remote).
-- Petzl
terryc wrote
respects).
Wrong, as always.
Only because you have only seen the results from shit security cameras.
Pretzl wrote
You dont need to with the better cameras, they have it already.
Utterly mangled all over again.
What I said.
camera?
I have looked at some but the images I have seen from these cameras are inferior to what I already get and not cheap (not seen any results i would put quality wise above crap rating) The auto aperture does help slow down "burn out" of the CCD maybe CMOS type when used outside in full sun (always protect cameras from sun)
availability.
I also believe there are laws, council regulations about recording what your neighbors do. An advantage with the software is I can mask recording areas of camera so they do not capture movement taking place in neighbors area. That said when camera does activate it does include images of my neighbors property. petzl
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Interested if you could provide a link to a good security image petzl
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Like anything, the early ones were crap, but now quality is just a function of how much money you have.
Still not seen a "security camera" that takes a better image than a Video cam The old tape type a virtually worthless but make a better alternative, just looking at new Video cams seem even better
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didn't want to tell anyone else about it,
After what has been covered, I am very interested to see what is around as an alternative to the type of Swann Security cameras that I mentioned initially in this thread.
Have a look at:
Camera Specs: SWANN "OUTDOORCAM" COLOR SECURITY CAMERA Product Code: [SW214-ODC-23210]
380 TV Lines, 15ft (5m) infra-red night visionCheck it out after about 17:30 for the night vision properties. Now these cameras have been available in the past, at a reduced price by SwannStore.com for around $45AUD.
Where can I get a 600 TVL security camera with night vision at a reasonable price? I don't need to read number plates at night at 20 paces, but I wouldn't mind trying something a little upmarket to compare.
Cheers Don...
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You might not have, but I have. Try searching for a few and their sample images.
I have! Many seem reluctant to show samples Heres what I get primary through window (sony video)
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