:Ross Herbert wrote: :> On Fri, 08 May 2009 17:57:58 +1000, atec 7 7 wrote: SNIP :> Granted. But, you haven't read the guidelines for making application for the :> rebate. If you had you would have seen that you must be approved for the rebate :> before placing an order for any equipment and onthe application you must :> nominate both the supplier of the equipment and the registered installer along :> with his company name and registraton number. Unless you did this or you are a :> qualified/registered solar installer yourself
: thats so wrong it's painful , I used a licensed sparky doing the :majority of work myself having the required trade certs ,
:(assuming you are going to install :> it yourself), you won't get the rebate anyway.
: wrong
:Looks like you will end up paying :> roughly as much as I did for an inferior system..
: utterly wrong .. :
***************** You seem to answer in very short sentences which don't convey much information, so pardon me if I have to make some assumptions based on your answers.
Let's highlight a few points you may have overlooked. You said you hadn't read the rebate application form or guideline document. You say you already have the equipment which you imported from China. Correct? So have you ensured that it meets the relevant Australian standards as listed here?
"To receive the rebate all the equipment in the system must be new and meet the relevant Australian Standards. All systems, components and equipment must comply with, and be designed and installed in accordance with all relevant Australian Standards or, where such does not exist, with the relevant international standard. Australian Standards include, but are not limited to: ? AS/NZS 3000 ? Electrical installations ? AS 4509 ? Stand-alone power systems ? AS 4086 ? Secondary batteries for use with stand- alone power systems ? AS 4777 ? Grid connection of energy systems via inverters ? AS/NZS 5033 ? Installation of photovoltaic (PV) arrays (currently under review) ? AS/NZS 1170 ? Structural design actions; and ? any other standard called upon by the above or other relevant standards. Photovoltaic modules must be tested and certified to IEC61215 or IEC61646 by a laboratory registered under the International Electrotechnical Commission?s (IEC) CB scheme to test these standards."
**************** You say above you "used a licensed sparky...". This implies to me that you have already installed the system. Correct?
Does your sparky/installer appear on the list of accredited installers? (Qld installers appear on p.31 - 40)
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The guideline states;
"Competent designer and installer
To be eligible for a rebate the applicant must be able to demonstrate that the person who carries out the photovoltaic installation is accredited (full or provisional) for design and installation of photovoltaic systems by the Australian Business Council for Sustainable Energy. Details of accredited designers and installers are available at
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A licensed electrical contractor must carry out the electrical work associated with the wiring in the building and in the power system, in compliance with regulations in the state or territory in which the installation is undertaken."
Care to tell us if he is on the list?
*********** You say you haven't read the rebate application. So, has it been completed and submitted?
"When should the application be lodged?
The Residential application for pre-approval must be submitted to and approved by the Program Manager before the system installation commences. A rebate will NOT be paid for equipment installed without pre-approval being granted."
On page 3 of the guideline it states categorically; "A rebate will NOT be paid for equipment installed without pre-approval being granted."
and on page 5;
"Notification of pre-approval Applicants will be notified in writing if the pre-approval has been granted or not within six weeks from receipt of the complete application.
The notification of pre-approval will set out any additional compliance requirements. The pre-approval will expire nine months after the date it is granted.
On receipt of pre-approval, successful applicants should immediately notify their installer so that materials can be ordered and installation commenced."
************ Finally, have you actually received an approval of your application for the rebate?